Met up with an online fren at A&W the other day to discover interesting things abt his leftist ideals hahah! And how marriage/kids is a dampener on such things...
Anyway, our conversation drifted to the Emergent... and he wonders aloud why must we group Christians under such labels? Doesn't that promote division?
The same can be said about Calvinists... Arminians... why dun you just call yourself a "Jesusist" and get done with it? Does that mean that people get their beliefs just because Calvin or Arminius or Luther taught it?
Isn't this something like the Church of Corinth? I'm for Peter! I'm for Apollo! I'm for Paul!
And here's the trumpcard... "I'm for Jesus!" (which can be every whit an expression of superiority and divisive spirit ie 'true Jesus church'?)
I confess these things are very possible, and I will not deny having seen these tragic situations. Our fallen nature is not making things better.
But distinguishing persons of different views may not imply anything more than that there is a difference. It's about as 'divisive' as distinguishing a 'Singaporean' from a 'Malaysian', or a 'Malay' from a 'Chinese'.
That such 'labels' are useful can be seen when I say "I'm a Malaysian Chinese"... and what it signifies is quickly and easily received in your mind.
Without these distinguishing labels, my speech is forever bound by the embarassing burden of continually and repeatedly explaining my geographical location, nationality, citizenship, ethnic background, origins!
As much as I try to reduce jargons, I'm reminded of ACT founder Ron Choong's explanation of why scholars use them...
For precision... you can't have a meaningful discussion if you think justification, regeneration and sanctification mean the same thing.
For brevity... any of those terms above can take pages to explain. Imagine having to repeat them 20 times in your assignment. It'd be too tedious for tears.
I owe Edwards' insights on this one:
http://jonathanedwards.com/text/FoW/Preface.htm
Anyway, our conversation drifted to the Emergent... and he wonders aloud why must we group Christians under such labels? Doesn't that promote division?
The same can be said about Calvinists... Arminians... why dun you just call yourself a "Jesusist" and get done with it? Does that mean that people get their beliefs just because Calvin or Arminius or Luther taught it?
Isn't this something like the Church of Corinth? I'm for Peter! I'm for Apollo! I'm for Paul!
And here's the trumpcard... "I'm for Jesus!" (which can be every whit an expression of superiority and divisive spirit ie 'true Jesus church'?)
I confess these things are very possible, and I will not deny having seen these tragic situations. Our fallen nature is not making things better.
But distinguishing persons of different views may not imply anything more than that there is a difference. It's about as 'divisive' as distinguishing a 'Singaporean' from a 'Malaysian', or a 'Malay' from a 'Chinese'.
That such 'labels' are useful can be seen when I say "I'm a Malaysian Chinese"... and what it signifies is quickly and easily received in your mind.
Without these distinguishing labels, my speech is forever bound by the embarassing burden of continually and repeatedly explaining my geographical location, nationality, citizenship, ethnic background, origins!
As much as I try to reduce jargons, I'm reminded of ACT founder Ron Choong's explanation of why scholars use them...
For precision... you can't have a meaningful discussion if you think justification, regeneration and sanctification mean the same thing.
For brevity... any of those terms above can take pages to explain. Imagine having to repeat them 20 times in your assignment. It'd be too tedious for tears.
I owe Edwards' insights on this one:
http://jonathanedwards.com/text/FoW/Preface.htm
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A follower of Christ - Christian,
Jack
Once I heard a Malaysia leader in NECF defines an evangelical as 'someone who loves Jesus' ...
(roll my eyes up, and slap forehead)
http://store.discerningreader.com/getgosrigrcs.html
McLaren wrote a very conciliatory response to Horton that almost moved me to tears hahaha..
Oden and Packer got a book called "One Faith", being optimistic that there IS a consensus among evangelicals which unite us based on recent statements and creeds...
But I fear Olson's prediction may be closer to the truth. It seems like some kinda fragmentation is over the horizon.