Who Was Jesus?


Sivin and Alwyn blogged about the Emergent Malaysia meeting on "The Jesus We Never Knew".

Some random thots:
- Saw some familiar faces ie Justin, Sae Rom and bro, Michael, Collin etc besides the old gang, as well as some new ones.

- Kia Meng's guitar playing reminds me of CF days. Still some remnants of the FGS charismatic I see...

- Beautiful liturgy and reenactment of the Lord's Supper

- Lots of convergence and overlap in our respective views on Christ and authority

- Al, thanks for the nice summary! I do believe tat social action and evangelism are full partners in mission. They are inseparable.

In some sections of evangelicalism, I think the weakness is to see social action as merely a means to evangelism. Just a point of clarification :)

Comments

Sivin Kit said…
Thanks David for "gracing" the occassion with your reasonable and passionate presentation :-)I too caught that point where you mentioned, "In some sections of evangelicalism, I think the weakness is to see social action as merely a means to evangelism.". When I first heard Ron Sider from http://esa-online.org/ I found a different kind of Evangelical (which I hope many more would emulate), and through Bishop Hwa Yung I'm happy to know INFEMIT http://www.ocms.ac.uk/about/infemit.php has been doing a lot of theological thinking and writing to correct this weakness.
Anonymous said…
Hi from Ukraine.

I am a Malaysian who is deeply interested in knowing the truth about Da Vinci Code, however I must say that your facts vs fiction as stated in your "expedition" is somehow confusing, albeit there are a clear Malay translation.

:(
Dave said…
Hi Mirul,

Thanks for visiting.. and it wud be a pleasure to chat more abt the DVC phenomenon.

Hope you found the Bahasa translation helpful... please feel free to clarify any confusion about the novel :)
Anonymous said…
Hi Mirul,

Perhaps it may help if you can articulate or state what is still confusing.

I suppose having to read a bunch of articles of many lines may seem daunting, intimidating even ("Gosh, I actually have to subject myself to lines upon lines of dry, boring prose?") - But if we are concerned with sifting fact from fiction, that would be a small but willing price to pay.

For me, Dan Brown (who is quite a good writer - I got hooked to the book) took lots of "poetic license", diplomatically speaking with the "facts".

And I'm not just talking about what some might deem "sensitive religious issues", so let's start with one of the artistic details.

Dan Brown depicted Sophie Neveu using Leonardo's painting "Madonna of the Rocks", as a shield, pressing it close to her body that it bends. It is stated that it is a five-foot tall canvas.

Well as Bruce Boucher, curator of the European decorative arts and sculpture at the Art Institute of Chicago, wrote in the New York Times, the Madonna of the Rocks is more than six feet tall and painted on wood, not canvas and so would not be so supple.

Some say this is nitpicking and not worth discussing about, but wait a minute.

Wasn't there a statement in beginning of the novel: "All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documetns and secret rituals in this novel are accurate"?

As we can see it is not so accurate anymore.

At best, let's just treat the novel as just a novel. Of course, if there are still questions, then I really do question (pun intended) the thinking faculties of those who will still insist that the novel is more than fiction.
Ou Lik Ee said…
Hey.. thanks for vieving my blog.. I welcome you into my blog ya.. God bless... =)
Dave said…
Yew Khuen,

Immense pleasure to worship with you all, thanks for inviting me! I'm strangely warmed too... :)

Lik Ee,

Nice to meet ya! Will link up to ur blog :D